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and we can't borrow from china. >> one hundredth of 1% is pbs. >> one one millionth of 1 percent is the other way. >> jon: speaking of gaffes and how the media handled them. next big debate is the vice presidential debate. what is going to be, i guess the means, as vice president biden goes up against ryan. >> you are all in chains and middle-class is buried. the media picked up on these on the way dan quayle there wouldn't be a debate. they would have biden in an undisclosed question. >> jon: big vice presidential debate comes next week, you can with a watch it on fox news channel on thursday night and more news watch ahead. >> first, if you see something that you feel shows evidence of media bias. you have twitter you can tweet us. are the polls biased or is it the coverage? >> bring in the numbers, when it comes to political polls, who do you trust? who should you trust? and is there someone in the back room cooking the numbers? find out next on news watch. ande mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into t
and we can't borrow from china. >> one hundredth of 1% is pbs. >> one one millionth of 1 percent is the other way. >> jon: speaking of gaffes and how the media handled them. next big debate is the vice presidential debate. what is going to be, i guess the means, as vice president biden goes up against ryan. >> you are all in chains and middle-class is buried. the media picked up on these on the way dan quayle there wouldn't be a debate. they would have biden in an...
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. that's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. but that's what we heard last night. >> bret: in all seriousness, pbs released a statement today and they said, quote, we are very disappointed that pbs became a political target in the presidential debate. governor romney does not understand the value of american people place on public broadcasting and the outstanding return on investment the system delivers to our nation. the federal investment and public broadcasting equals about one, 100th of 1% of the federal budget, elimination of funding would have virtually no impact on the nation's debt, yet the loss to the american public would be devastating. there are some people who say that that was not the best thing to mention, bringing up big bird. >> you're talking about somebody who does like
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. that's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. but that's what we heard last night. >> bret: in all seriousness, pbs released a statement today and they said, quote, we are very disappointed that...
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stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things we have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. the vice-presidential candidates will soon get their chance. their first and only debate is set for next thursday. in denver, i'm bigad shaban. now back to you. >> thank you. >>> well, trending now on social media, the comment that romney would fire big bird. it gained 25,000 followers on twitter overnight. less than 30 minutes ago, he thanks governor romney for making his account so popular so a little bit of fun there. president obama and mitt romney weigh in on the issues in an exclusive presidential for trum on cbssf.com. today's issue much like last night, the economy. >>> some developing news in san jose where investigators are still on the scene of a deadly shooting. cbs 5 reporter anne makovec is in east san jose with details. >> reporter:
stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things we have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. the vice-presidential candidates will soon get their chance. their first and only debate is set for next thursday. in denver, i'm bigad shaban. now back to you. >> thank you. >>> well, trending now on social...
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debate. >> i like pbs. >> oh! >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn. >> i like big bird. >> really? >> of aaall the things he's going to take flack for, big bird. >> i love big bird. >> you do? >> of course i do. >> apparently i'm dressing like big bird. channeling big bird apparently. much more news ahead, including the latest on tensions between syria and turkey. we'll be watching that. stay with us. get outta the car. ♪ are you ok? the... get in the car. [ male announcer ] the epa estimated 42 mpg highway chevy cruze eco. for wherever life takes you. and now qualified buyers can get 0% apr financing for 48 months on a 2012 cruze. ♪ droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid does. get $100 off select motorola 4g lte smartphones like the droid razr. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect cr
debate. >> i like pbs. >> oh! >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn. >> i like big bird. >> really? >> of aaall the things he's going to take flack for, big bird. >> i love big bird. >> you do? >> of course i do. >> apparently i'm dressing like big bird. channeling big bird apparently. much more news ahead, including the latest on tensions between syria and turkey. we'll be watching that. stay with us. get outta the car. ♪ are you ok? the......
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fund pbs for 500 years. that's republican priority. now when we come back did president obama take it easy on mitt romney because fox news and conservatives kept calling him an angry black man? really interesting conversation. we'll have that when we return. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic but i would say this to the american people. >> obama does not have the latitude that white guys who start you morning with a daily dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. >>only on current tv. home of the brave. ♪ ♪ it's where fear goes unwelcomed... ♪ ♪ and certain men... find a way to rise above. this is the land of giants. ♪ ♪ guts. glory. ram. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] if you didn't notice, this week fox news and a lot of visit websites went crazy over the exclusive video clip they have ofof president obama that they found. except it wasn't exclusive and they ran it back in 2004 when he said it, and they ran it the last campaign, but they are w
fund pbs for 500 years. that's republican priority. now when we come back did president obama take it easy on mitt romney because fox news and conservatives kept calling him an angry black man? really interesting conversation. we'll have that when we return. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic but i would say this to the american people. >> obama does not have the latitude that white guys who start you morning with a daily dose of politics from a fresh perspective....
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i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a close ally of the eight foot tall bird, was asked about it at the briefing. >> i'm not going to get into politics here. i wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers, so to speak. >> reporter: but big bird has some conservatives a little plucked. they argue that it's time to stop funding public broadcast programs like sesame street, npr and the pbs news hour. brian darling is with the conservative heritage foundation. >> it's not well spent at all. using public funds to fund different news outlets, to fund entertainment programs, is not what the federal government should b
i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a...
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pbs's jim lehrer. let's watch. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked what? firing people. and he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. he well lirelished every moment. this is what we used to do at bain capital and this is what i'll do even when i'm president. eas easy. >> he took over the room as if there didn't need to be anybody else in the room except employee, some of whom won't be employees much longer. again back to the president. what do you think was going on in his head? you said you have to be in the moment. i would have been terrified if i were the president thinking how did this person, this not really great governor, this guy who was not really a person in so many ways politically, how is he dominating this air space right now, how can that be happening? >>
pbs's jim lehrer. let's watch. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked what? firing people. and he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. he well lirelished every moment....
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i like pbs and big bird and i like you too. but i'm not going to keep spending moneythings i have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> so don't boo now. but i want to make sure i got this straight. he will get rid of regulations on wall street but he is going to crack down on seseme street. thank goodness somebody is finally cracking down on big bird. n who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut 1, 100th of 1% of the federal budget by cutting any subsidies that go to pbs, i don't know, i don't think he is going to get to that balanced budget with that. >> i don't think so. but he will stop those socialists muppets. the problem with the idea of cutting such a small piece of the budget with pbs is medicare and medicaid. he said that he would increase military spending so what mitt romney would be left with would be slashing a third of something else. that would be school lunches and veterans benefits. he would have to slash everything else in
i like pbs and big bird and i like you too. but i'm not going to keep spending moneythings i have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> so don't boo now. but i want to make sure i got this straight. he will get rid of regulations on wall street but he is going to crack down on seseme street. thank goodness somebody is finally cracking down on big bird. n who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut...
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he made a straight shot at the moderator, pbs' jim lehrer. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i'm going to stop other things. i love pbs, big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked firing people he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. this is what we used to do at bain capital, we made a lot of money, this is what i'll do when i'm president. it's easy, just like that. he fired him. >> didn't it seem like he was the boardroom chair, walked into the boardroom, put down his papers, as if there didn't need to be anybody else in the room except employees, some of whom won't be employees much longer. it's a dominant, dominant performance. again, back to the president. what do you think was going on in his head? you have to be in the moment. i would have been terrified if i were the president thinking how dud this person, this not really great governor,
he made a straight shot at the moderator, pbs' jim lehrer. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i'm going to stop other things. i love pbs, big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked firing people he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. this is...
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. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, big bird. i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> cnn political analyst and editorial director of the national journal. hi, ron. >> good morning, carol. >> i know it's not the most important issue of the night. plenty of people actually think lehrer helped mitt romney by allowing him so much time to answer questions. fair? >> i don't know. he has been an important force in presidential debates. last night was not a good night for him. the new format has a lot of strength, allows you to drill down on a subject, providing sustained focus on one area at a time. and he simply did not take advantage of it. he didn't have meaningful follow-ups. he didn't challenge them. he really didn't kind of force them to move beyond their kind of comfort zone and their talking points. i think it was a tremendous missed opportunity. i bet the other moderators will learn from it and being more aggressive in using this tool that the ne
. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, big bird. i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> cnn political analyst and editorial director of the national journal. hi, ron. >> good morning, carol. >> i know it's not the most important issue of the night. plenty of people actually think lehrer helped mitt romney by allowing him so much time to answer questions. fair? >> i...
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-pi am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i am not going to keep spending money on things and borrowing money from china to pay for it. number two, i will take programs that are currentlyygood programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send it to the states. number three, i will make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combined some agencies and departments. the cuts would be done by attrition, by the way. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. trrllion dollar deficit for the last four years. president has put us in almost as much public debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office, i had more than a trillion dollar deficit reading me, and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid for, and a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for, and then a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some init
-pi am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i am not going to keep spending money on things and borrowing money from china to pay for it. number two, i will take programs that are currentlyygood programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send it to the states. number three, i will make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combined some agencies and departments. the cuts would be done by attrition, by the way. the president said he would cut the...
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president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled t. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much as all prior presidents combine. >> jim: mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked in the oval office. himore than a trillion-dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid for and a whole bunch of programs that are not paid for. and then, a massive economic
president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the...
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i'm going to stop other things to pbs i like big bird and i like you too. i'm not going to stop borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> i thought lehrer was big bird. first let's go with the president looking down while romney is speaking. >> i'm comparing this to 2008. this wasn't a good thing. typically when he looks down he is trying show his disagreement. i don't agree what you are saying. tight jaw, clinched lip. there is also a level of intimidation i think in parts of the clip where he doesn't feel good about what's going on with romney. he feels insecure with romney. >> bill: shouldn't he be looking at romney isn't that much better body language. >> much better. more powerful to look at him. >> bill: looking away showing weakness. >> you don't deserve my eye contact therefore i'm not going to give it to you. >> bill: condescending. >> right and that's not what you need to be doing here. >> bill: comes across to the viewer because they are watching split screen. presentation to governor romney. >> use very powerful gestures, he used the palms do
i'm going to stop other things to pbs i like big bird and i like you too. i'm not going to stop borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> i thought lehrer was big bird. first let's go with the president looking down while romney is speaking. >> i'm comparing this to 2008. this wasn't a good thing. typically when he looks down he is trying show his disagreement. i don't agree what you are saying. tight jaw, clinched lip. there is also a level of intimidation i think in parts of...
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i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> bill: can you explain, let's start with the 47% because neither charles nor i really -- we just don't get it it why didn't he use that? >> it's inexplicable to me. i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was just the elevation and the president was i guess didn't have enough oxygen and just couldn't get the energy level up. >> let's not waste our time on serious analysis with al gore's view about the air. >> bill: are you repudiating global warming? >> of
i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> bill: can you explain, let's start with the 47% because neither charles nor i really -- we just don't get it it why didn't he use that? >> it's inexplicable to me. i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have...
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs. i love big bird. actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money and borrowing money from china to pay for it, no. 1. >> is that harsh? >> it's harsh when we're focusing on big bird. but romney's point was that too much of our debt has been accumulated by china and other countries as well. what he didn't mention was that china was buying that up when george w. bush was president as well. but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney tonight. in the end, we've seen how people are going to vote in november. we've got two more debates to do. i think you'll see a di
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs. i love big bird. actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money and borrowing money from china to pay for it, no. 1. >> is that harsh? >> it's harsh when we're focusing on big bird. but romney's point was that too much of our debt has been accumulated by china and other countries as well. what he didn't mention was that china was buying that up when george w. bush was president as well. but the fact that i had to...
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i like pbs. i like big bird and i like you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money from things to borrow money from china to pay for it. that has to be negotiated with congress. when i ran for mayor, i said i was going to cut taxes by a certain level. i didn't know how i was going to do it exactly. i had to negotiate that. so i think he's given as much specifics as president obama ever gave in 2008 when he ran for president, probably a lot more. >> mr. giuliani, just to make sure how much news was made tonight, am i still correct that the romney campaign's official position is they want to extend indefinitely or permanently the push tax cuts on the table, which would cut taxes for high income individuals? i don't think that's a matter of debate yet mitt romney seemed to repudiate that. >> if you extend the bush tax cuts, you keep taxes where they are. if you don't extend the bush tax cuts, you raise taxes. >> they're set to expire. it was your party that set them to expire i would add. i
i like pbs. i like big bird and i like you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money from things to borrow money from china to pay for it. that has to be negotiated with congress. when i ran for mayor, i said i was going to cut taxes by a certain level. i didn't know how i was going to do it exactly. i had to negotiate that. so i think he's given as much specifics as president obama ever gave in 2008 when he ran for president, probably a lot more. >> mr. giuliani, just to make sure...
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i'm sorry, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep spending on things from china to pay for it. if that's the case, it will be the best product to purchase. my experience is the private sector is typically able to provide a product at a lower cost. >> can the two of you agree, the voters have a clear choice on medicare? >> absolutely. let's mention the other one. >> let's not. >> the last point i would make before -- >> ten minutes is up, sir. >> i had five seconds before he interrupted me -- >> joining us to sort through the debate, the executive editor of politico, jim van dehide. thanks for waking up early. cnn viewers, 67% of them said mitt romney had a better night. what is your view after watching it? >> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven perf
i'm sorry, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep spending on things from china to pay for it. if that's the case, it will be the best product to purchase. my experience is the private sector is typically able to provide a product at a lower cost. >> can the two of you agree, the voters have a clear choice on medicare? >> absolutely. let's mention the other one. >> let's not. >> the last point i would make before -- >> ten...
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president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled t. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much as all prior presidents combine. >> jim: mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked in the oval office. himore than a trillion-dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid for and a whole bunch of programs that are not paid for. and then, a massive economic
president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the...
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i'm sorry, jim, i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i will not keep borrowing money. >> president obama responded by questioning pledge to cut taxes for all and reducing the deficit at the same time. >> math, common sense and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. we've tried this. we've tried both approaches. the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that's made in 2001-2003. >> the national federation of independent businesseses said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. >> romney slammed the president for the collapse of sill cylinderra and among things. 46% of america he considered himself -- themselves victims. even president supporters frustrated he didn't go on the owe -- offensive. >> we have crews with both of them. we start with paul chambers, who was with republican viewers. >> watched part of the debate in the cop tra costa county campaign headquarters. people there was very happy. the group watched the first head-to-head debate be
i'm sorry, jim, i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i will not keep borrowing money. >> president obama responded by questioning pledge to cut taxes for all and reducing the deficit at the same time. >> math, common sense and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. we've tried this. we've tried both approaches. the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that's made in 2001-2003. >> the national...
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. >> jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. stop other things. i like pbs, i love big bird, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: let the mockery begin. obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending on money to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> aghh! >> reporter: his response included a message. >> f-u-m-i -- >> reporter: a message spilled out for myth. and this isn't the first time that mitt romney has stalked big bird. >> i like big bird and bert and ernie for my grandkids to like. >> reporter: o. >> he got rid of your jobs, now he wants to get rid of b
. >> jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. stop other things. i like pbs, i love big bird, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: let the mockery begin. obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >>...
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: the first presidential debate is behind them, but the two sides went at it again today. republicans said their man took it to the president in the denver duel. the obama camp charged the truth got trampled in the process. >> la night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very different visions for the country. and -- (applause) -- and i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i said the president's vision is trickle-down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see instead a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> reporter: romney's reception at the event was reinforced by instant polling that he won last night's encounter by more than 2-1. but at an obama rally in denver, the president charged romney had repeatedly misrepresented his own positions on jobs and taxes. >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions an
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: the first presidential debate is behind them, but the two sides went at it again today. republicans said their man took it to the president in the denver duel. the obama camp charged the truth got trampled in the process. >> la night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very different visions for the country. and -- (applause) -- and i think it was helpful to be...
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i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird, and i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs s that are currently good programbut will be run more efficiently at the state level. number three, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, cut agencies into departments. my cutbacks would be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he'd cut the deficit in hamp. unfortunately, he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> lehrer: mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked in the oval office i had more than a $1 trillion deficit greeting me, and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card. two tax cuts that were not paid
i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird, and i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs s that are currently good programbut will be run more efficiently at the state level. number three, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, cut agencies into departments. my cutbacks would be...